Uh, is that a terrifying experience?

I, I was quite lucky in my...

The inspiration that I had to enter the first year was a guy named Klaus Skangel, uh, Stangl, who fortunately enough that year won the Packer Prize.

I'd moved into a studio in Alexandria called The Nest, and he was halfway through painting that winning prize, which is of Taika, T- Taika Waititi, the director, in a 3D kind of setting.

And we were just...

It was kind- it was a very open studio, so I was a couple of blocks away from him in talking distance.

And we, he's such a nice guy as well, and we formed quite a nice bond over that.

Oh, okay.