when you bring a new idea to any school sometimes there's a little bit of reluctance there's leaders tend to kind of worry a little bit about what it's going to mean in terms of resourcing and effort and other teachers take a bit of convincing how did you go about that

having a new concept like this when schools are obviously so structured it i'm not going to lie it was definitely difficult because obviously not being part of the curriculum, brand new, pulling kids out of class was obviously going to be difficult.

We also had, I really wanted to publish it on YouTube, which posed its own issues being a public platform.

We did have our parameters in place, such as only using first names and making sure that kids without media permissions wouldn't be featured.

There's a lot of behind the scenes stuff that Judy and Russell and myself go behind making sure that the students are protected.

But yeah, it was difficult, but I guess over time, once the parents sort of saw the end result, it ended up being quite a success.

And we actually went from maybe parents being a bit skeptical to the other way where they were saying, look, why isn't my child featured more? It actually went around in circles to the other way, which was quite interesting.

Tell us a little bit about, you know, how you support the kids in kind of developing and producing some of these shows.