How do you stay motivated? How do you stay motivated? Like Jess saying, when you can see that there's something that you want to do, but what you're doing right now is maybe creating a different path that you didn't think that you were going to be on.

Yeah, left uni, it happened to be that over that time Dubai Sevens was on, got invited with UR Sevens, which I was there in the academy with their senior team.

Came back home after that, was in the shower, got a call, annoyed that the call stopped my music, but then got out of the shower and realised it was Tony Rooks, the England Sevens coach, and I was like, oh.

I wonder what this is.

He invited me into camp, not really expecting anything.

They got kept on for the second week pre...

It was the time, not Malaga Sevens, but Spain Sevens was the first stop.

What about you? I don't