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Sam Kessler

Sam Kessler

Oct 23, 2026

18:18
Are you able to see whether they're good
18:20
employees? So when I was covering this in the crypto context, It really was sort of 50-50.
18:24
You'd have some really good employees from my conversations with folks, and you'd also have some really bad employees.
18:31
When it came to this particular cell, we did have the opportunity to talk to this father-son company in Florida.
18:38
They had hired one of these workers, and they fired him.
18:47
They were like, this guy does not have the skills.
18:49
Can I say, I am actually a little surprised that the North Korean workers weren't good employees.

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47:19
Where has this story been evolving?
6:06
Are there other industries where Trump's investments intersect with policy choices he needs to make in addition to tech?
6:13
I mean, I'd say that the at least from our reporting to focus there specifically, we already mentioned crypto a couple of times.
6:20
I'd say that that's probably, you know, the most at least one can kind of draw a line in terms of timing between his business dealings in crypto and some I wouldn't call it legislation, but policies that he's passed since he's joined the White House.
6:39
So the most glaring example of this is from reporting that we did in January of or I think it actually came out in February of this year where the president, you know, he launched a company called World Liberty Financial with his sons.
6:54
And secretly, that company sold 49% to a group of UAE investors led by, you know, his name is Sheikh Tahnoon.
7:03
He's a member of the UAE royal family.
7:05
He's also a member of the UAE, you know, government leading its spy agencies.
9:19
If we can get even more specific, why might a United Arab Emirates royal and his associates sink half a billion dollars into World Liberty Financial, the president's crypto business? What might they want?
8:02
Are there other industries where Trump's investments intersect with policy choices he needs to make in addition to tech?
8:10
I mean, I'd say that the, at least from our reporting to focus there specifically, we already mentioned crypto a couple of times.
8:16
I'd say that that's probably the most, at least one can kind of draw a line in terms of timing between his business dealings in crypto and some I wouldn't call it legislation, but policies that he's passed since he's joined the White House.
8:35
So the most glaring example of this is from reporting that we did in January of or I think it actually came out in February of this year where the president, you know, he launched a company called World Liberty Financial with his sons.
8:50
And secretly, that company sold 49% to a group of UAE investors led by, you know, his name is Sheikh Tahnoon.
8:59
He's a member of the UAE royal family.
9:02
He's also a member of the UAE, you know, government leading its spy agencies.
11:15
If we can get even more specific, why might a United Arab Emirates royal and his associates sink half a billion dollars into World Liberty Financial, the president's crypto business? What might they want?
37:05
Of course.
37:05
But you just do have to look at the timing of this deal and the parties that I mentioned before, where it's, for example, Sheikh Tahnoon, who was on the other side of this deal that we're talking about today.
37:16
He is often referred to as the Spy Sheikh.
37:19
Um, he is not only the brother to the, the, the president, um, of the UAE, but he's also that country's national security advisor.
37:26
And so for the president, four days before the election, his family rather, to enter into a deal directly with a Spy Sheikh, um, worth $500 million, and then make policy later on down the line that affects not only the sheikh's, um, you know, country, the UAE, but also his own business empire, his own companies, that being the sheikh's companies, uh, it, it's pretty extraordinary.
41:42
Didn't read the paper this weekend."
41:44
You, you have seen a pretty loud response.
41:46
Um, you know, i- i- actually, you did see, [chuckles] um, if you consider the, the president a Republican lawmaker, [chuckles] um, which, which he is, um, he did respond to our reporting earlier today in a question, um, in the Oval Office, and he, um, reiterated what she- what he said before, which is that his business empire is led by his children.

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