I don't watch boxing YouTube channels.

I'll be honest.

Do you watch them? I do watch a few of the boxing communities.

He puts those mini documentaries together.

I'll be honest with you.

I watch IFL TV more than any other channel.

And I do.

Conor Walker will be 80 kilo by

yeah,

yeah, it'll come, it'll come.

And I thought, when we signed to fight Chakram Giyasov, Jack was number one in the WBO.

So it was a big risk, really, fighting Giyasov.

But we thought, you know what? Jack's avoided.

He's avoided.

Let's do the fight.

What do you see in Jack's game and Tiafema's to make you so strongly believe that that's the

you've known john hedges for a long time as well be represent the man she wrote in pat brown now of course represented john when he first turned professional as a young seventeen eighteen year old but Why, though, with all due respect, do you believe this isn't his time to beat your man, Pat Brown?

You're trying to get me, aren't you, Jamie? Listen, John's a fantastic fighter, and it shows in Pat's camp.

This camp's cost a fortune for Pat.

Getting sparring partners is very, very difficult, long-rangey southpaws, so Pat has taken this.

There's no overlooking here, and that's the respect he's given to John as a fighter.

John's a fantastic fighter in his own right.

I just believe...

It's two

I'm going to give you props because you said in the interview we did two days ago that they're disrespecting Hergovich.

Yeah, the odds were disgraceful.

And this is what I meant yesterday.

We expected Moses to win, but we shouldn't be shocked if Hergovic wins.

He is a top five, top three, really, heavyweights in the world with a granite chin, Olympic bronze medalist, done loads of WSB, just a very experienced man that's only ever been stopped on his feet due to cuts, really.

Do you know what I mean? And he didn't really train for that fight.

You could see he was on his feet.

Now, to jump on the back end, to piggyback off that, Sam, how much did Hergovic maybe... break Atalama in the sense of the shots that Atalama was landing put everybody away leading up to this fight.

The thing is, as well, I guess in your heart of hearts, you don't think that this fight will happen and maybe Jack might get elevated or something along them lines? I

don't know, you know, because Lopez's track record, he does take on challenges.

He does seem to be talking like he doesn't want this fight, though.

He doesn't want the fight.

He's a kid, he doesn't want the fight.

He's like, oh, I'm going to have to get my legal team to look at it.

Like, look at what? There's nothing to look at.

Hmm.

I genuinely

believe that.

Adam, same question.

I think Sam's views changed, actually.

I remember just before the fight was made, Sam came up to me and said, I'm begging you.

Don't let John...

I didn't say the word begging.

Not really?