going to work

out, you know? I was pretty devastated.

I said, look, any chance I can get a second interview? And Sally's like, yeah, I'm too busy.

But you know what? Come and see Matthew.

And Matthew, I don't know how to describe Matthew.

He's a genius.

He's a mathematician, right? But he's one of those guys, again, I'm from Melbourne, like Smith Street.

Do you still get the same vibe out of it? You used to, or is it, is it, you know, I'm sure as you've grown up, your intentions have changed and what's important.