um yeah just send us those whatsapp messages and so you can talk about um then maybe we can have this conversation with our guest this evening maybe another part that i'd want us to touch on it would be um and and then you did touch on and say unfortunately with the hpv you can only see it once you have you know um being scanned or you know being you know your body has been you've went for those checkups and all of that And then it takes me to my question to understand now, how often do people ordinarily go to clinics, to doctors, to have their bodies scanned, to check if everything's still fine? Is the trend looking good in South Africa or is it not really looking proper?

We unfortunately do not have the information for the private sector.

But we do know that in the private sector, it's much easier to access your healthcare professional for a cervical screen, whether it be still the old pap smear or whether your healthcare professional have moved over to HPV DNA testing.

In the public sector, it is unfortunately a very different picture.

The cervical cancer policy have indicated that in South Africa women have to go for their regular screens, and that was the previous policy, that have to go for their screens from the age of 30 at 10-year intervals.

And unfortunately, we have what we call an opportunistic screening regime in South Africa.

So therefore, women only get screened once they go to the clinic.

From your own experience, is it bad in those areas or is it just the same as us people who are living in urban areas?

um yeah just send us those whatsapp messages and so you can talk about um then maybe we can have this conversation with our guest this evening maybe another part that i'd want us to touch on it would be um and and then you did touch on and say unfortunately with the hpv you can only see it once you have you know um being scanned or you know being you know your body has been you've went for those checkups and all of that And then it takes me to my question to understand now, how often do people ordinarily go to clinics, to doctors, to have their bodies scanned, to check if everything's still fine? Is the trend looking good in South Africa or is it not really looking proper?

We unfortunately do not have the information for the private sector.

But we do know that in the private sector, it's much easier to access your healthcare professional for a cervical screen, whether it be still the old pap smear or whether your healthcare professional have moved over to HPV DNA testing.

In the public sector, it is unfortunately a very different picture.

The cervical cancer policy have indicated that in South Africa women have to go for their regular screens, and that was the previous policy, that have to go for their screens from the age of 30 at 10-year intervals.

And unfortunately, we have what we call an opportunistic screening regime in South Africa.

So therefore, women only get screened once they go to the clinic.

From your own experience, is it bad in those areas or is it just the same as us people who are living in urban areas?