So what inspired that transition and what convinced you that disability inclusion was an area where you could create meaningful impact and that it was special for you?

Yeah, I was going to say it feels like it's a natural step for both Brian and myself.

So I started in international education where I spent many years working on cross-cultural learning and youth development programs.

So that experience gave me a strong foundation in understanding diversity.

So over time, especially through my work in the corporate social responsibility department with an international company, I began to see more clear how much impact business can have beyond traditional education.

So what really shifted my perspective was realizing that inclusion, whether in education, employment, or society, more broadly, is not a standalone issue.

It is deeply connected to how systems are designed.

Sally, you can go first and then Brian, we can move.