What are your thoughts on that?

You know, I think it's interesting 'cause what you just read there, I think Homer touched on that a little bit in his remarks, um, before the board, uh, towards the end when he was speaking about, um, you know, prosec- there didn't need to be a conspiracy for all this to happen.

You know, justice-minded prosecutors can go astray for these reasons, personal motives, political reasons.

It's very stressful to be trying to solve especially a triple murder in this case.

And there's, um, public pressure to get a conviction.

Um, and I actually think based on what you read that this stuff doesn't even have to be operating consciously.

You know, when you're reviewing the evidence and you're unable to parse, uh, the reliability of evidence or your, your, uh, instinct is to discredit stuff that doesn't come from the police, you know, if it's found by a post-conviction detective or whatever it is, um, or a source that calls into a podcast, you know.

Um, so, uh, Sally or Johan, what, what else? What else, what else strikes you? Anything else?

So when you decided to start longboarding professionally, what made you decide to do longboarding versus shortboarding?

Well, I think, like I said, when I was at that age where everyone was getting coaches, coaches were pretty valuable, especially in shortboarding.

Because...

And there's also such a...

So many girls and boys, too, doing shortboarding, I think, more than longboarding in a competitive sense that it's like only the 1% is going to make the tour.

So you have to just freaking grind.

And with longboarding, it's like... it's a little more accessible i'd say there's less people doing it yeah i think so it's less competitive i think so okay yeah and there's like yeah i guess just like the time you put in and it's a little more achievable in terms of even financially right like it's a little more achievable because the short warning it's like you have to you have to be really rich to be able to be on tour really yeah both tours really but wow yeah do you pay for all your own travel Yes.

Yeah.

What piece of evidence or issue did you select?

So I selected the evidence of Bill Domet, Deputy Bill Domet's misconduct for several reasons, because I think that the court's response to it was really ridiculous and misguided.

So our listeners may remember that the evidence from the original trial was that Domet had threatened Chester with the death penalty, saying that he would ride the Thunderbolts if he didn't confess.

So then he lied about having ever said that on the stand and he was impeached by one of the prosecutors.

So by a very reliable, very good impeachment.

So Dummett definitely said that and he perjured himself on the stand.

That's in the trial record.

Okay.