different ways that you've been able to interact with this in your practice.

Yeah, like you, I've also heard it in like a linear step by step ladder rung fashion and also in this more circular petals, you know, petals on a flower fashion, which resonates with me a little bit more.

What Patanjali says in the sutras is it's very similar to what I said, like when I felt the vocation to become a yoga teacher, it just dropped in like pretty much fully formed.

I made up I made that decision in an instant.

And then other people have to really work over years for it.

And Patanjali tells us some people just boop.

arrive at somebody, like they just make it all of a sudden, like, poof, yeah, the facts, God just puts it there in them.

But I'm also curious about the online potential and, you know, what sort of advice would you give the person who's starting off as a yoga teacher to break into this field?

Is that why you decided to st- stick with doing the teacher training, or the teacher training you're doing is still in person? Or are you doing both?

Uh, w- both.

There's one in person at the studio that I have now, um, mostly departed from other than directing the teacher training.

But even there, folks are getting my online curriculum and then a live practicum with two other lead teachers, with the manager and another senior teacher there.

So they're getting me, and they're getting me i- in a s- an asynchronous way on video, on podcast, read it as an e-book, but then I'm also there answering their questions in the community space, but that again is online.

I'll go down and see them.

Of course I will.

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