Can you talk about a little bit?

Well, it was Kaiser Permanente, the HMO.

And I was finishing my dissertation on Shakespeare when a friend came running up the stairs to the house and was very excited saying, there's a job for you at Kaiser.

And I thought, oh, word processing, because I just finished my dissertation.

And he said, no, no, they're starting a theater company.

And I read about the theater company.

The idea was to help change attitudes and behaviors to inspire children through large Sesame Street style puppets as well as smaller hand puppets.

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