Ryna Cui
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May 11, 2026
What Has All This Back-and-Forth Climate Legislating Bought Us?
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Robinson MeyerHOST
Rina, what are your biggest questions going forward, I think about OBRA or about any of this?
Ryna CuiGUEST
I do think we now exist in an interesting period of time, both on the positive side, there's a lot of progress on technology and also in, in globally, there's not just in the US, but globally, all the technologies are getting to a point they are very competitive across the board.
Ryna CuiGUEST
At the same time, I think there's other uncertainties related to trade, but also the energy crisis make anotherClear and loud point about this dependence on fossil fuel make it really just long term and secure.
Ryna CuiGUEST
We can talk about the transition we're looking for, and it's related to ener-energy affordability, related to better economy, better health, better jobs.
Ryna CuiGUEST
Um, so I think there's just a, a kind of a very rich narrative and also a, a lot of opportunities we can tackle this issue, and it's probably very limited to do with climate in the first place.
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John BistlineGUEST
And I remember when models said, "Oh, well, maybe sixty to a hundred gigawatts might be a range with these new incentives," a lot of people said that was wildly unrealistic.So it's good to see that aspect of our analysis come, come to pass.