And unsurprisingly, the fans were ecstatic.

I was so excited.

I could not believe it.

On the tour, there were Girl Power t-shirts and I didn't really have enough money to buy one.

So I made one myself at a local, like, disposable camera photo print in place that said Girl Power for, like,

And this time, he didn't have to make his own T-shirt.

I was also at a point in my life where things were starting to change.

And for personal reasons, I remember that concert so, so well.

Yeah, yeah.

Don't get me wrong, people later on in life, they could be in their 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, might have a massive career change or change the path of their life because of circumstance.

But there is a lot of us in the industry that we both work in now that are of a very similar age that are all doing...

The best way to describe it is an event.

Let's say there's an event that everyone wants to go to.

There is a group of our age, people that are standing there all together, and it's because we all grew up in that era of, "I could do that." Like, all that this is showing me is that that could be me, and that's when you had these new avenues to be who you wanted to be.

You know, you found fame on a reality show.

Yeah, you always were just like, "No, that's what I wanna be famous." I-

... which is your failure to fit in at school, and I imagine that there's a lot that ties into how we started this conversation.

Yeah.

I mean, I, weirdly enough, I mean, that's quite a vague statement because in primary school, don't get me wrong, I had a lovely time.

I had a really, really great time at primary school, but I had these times where I didn't feel like I fit in, and that was because I think I was trying to work out who I was and what these thoughts that maybe I was having meant.

Because, you know, when you're nine, 10 years old, back then, I don't know about nine, 10-year-olds now, but back then, I didn't know what the word gay meant.

I didn't know what that meant.

But what I would be doing, I was quite stereotypical.

You fractured your skull.