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Ryann Hallback

Ryann Hallback

Principal Intelligence Analyst at The Vertex Project; cybersecurity and threat intelligence specialist

Aug 11, 2026

20:58
And that sends everybody off in a tizzy when really what should be the concern, the primary concern should be methodological or accuracy and precision.
21:09
Yeah, I was just going to say, to Jen's question, I think what helps, and we saw this in some of the reports we looked into, I think, for PivotCon, where they didn't have to blow up all of their sources, right, and give all of their, you know, the IOCs that they know or speak to everything so that they can continue.
21:30
Oh, PivotCon, there you go.
21:31
Shout out to PivotCon.
21:33
Product placement.
21:34
Right.
21:35
But at the beginning of the publications, they would flat out say, hey, this was our telemetry.

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55:16
Yeah,
21:07
Y'all said it.
21:08
You kind of like hit it on the head.
21:10
I also don't know, especially the current exercise that we're going through right now as we work on another challenge.
21:17
I don't necessarily know the solution because I will admit that our industry is unique and that is rooted in secrecy.
21:28
In certain, you know, in certain situations, rightfully so, because of what we're doing.
21:33
So it's not like medical research where everything needs to be shared.
21:38
Right.
24:49
please, sorry, go ahead, right? No, you go.

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