... um, what do you think about the pros and cons of a ongoing firefighter, uh, physical fitness mandate or, um, you know, requirement?

Um, I just think we have to be real careful with that because the fact of the matter is, you know, let's just look at the, the, what we do know.

So 70% of the fire service in the US is overweight or obese.

Like, that's just a fact.

Um, or at least that's what the data shows over the years.

Um, so to, to just overnight somehow impose this very rigid fitness standard, I just don't think we're setting ourselves up for success.

Do- I mean, in a perfect world, do I think we should have a fitness standard? Of course, I do.

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