What were some of the things that you learned through the big four experience that has now helped you to, I guess, translate that into being of great service to the market that you currently focus on?

Yeah.

I think one of the biggest things I learned, which is I'm sharing this in an upcoming post on social media is that, uh, everything is held together with spreadsheets and duct tape.

No matter how big they get, it seems like it's just always like, Holy cow, how's this stuff all working? And it's some type of spreadsheet somewhere maintained by a bunch of people that's been passed along for legacy, uh, forever.

Um, Yeah, but I mean, honestly, working at PwC and being like an auditor across, I don't know, dozens of companies, I think one of the best things that I learned is just like processes as a whole.

What does it mean to have a good process? And you see them across all these big companies where there's multiple steps, multiple people involved.

And so just being able to understand that, then compress it down to like, you and me, I think is one of the biggest things.

What are some of the key challenges that you see in the market today where perhaps people are not either educated enough or they're not focused on the right areas that is costing them dearly?

I've been trying to use AI both for due diligence as well as like uh yeah in many different ways if i if i say like that so with the right data and accounting up to date and so on you can start to do some really cool things together with ai how do you see the the role of the accountant changing or evolving with ai i see a lot of savings of time but therefore you can also do more advanced things as well

Yeah.

I mean, it's, it's interesting.

It's ever evolving.

I think the, right now, like most bookkeeping type stuff is still early in, in AI land.

I think there's a couple of like AI ledgers.

One of the most well-known right now is called Digits.

But why does it make sense to be bigger in terms of size? How does that math make sense?

What was happening in your life at the time? When did you realize that was the right path to take and the corporate path wasn't?

I think I probably, so I graduated.

from grad school in 2016, and I think I realized it in 2017.

But I just didn't...

I didn't have the...

I didn't go for it, honestly.

I kind of was half in, half out for a long time.

So what does an onboarding process look like for a client?

Yeah, that was the Suns.

And, and one thing too that I wanted to add on, Carlo, you had said something that, that kinda resonated with me too where you were saying like LeBron, when you think about all the people whose l- jerseys are retired with the Lakers, they all bring something to the table that's like the most prolific in something in NBA history.

Like Jerry West is the logo.

Like Kobe's one of the most prolific scorers and has some of the best cultural influence in the NBA.

Shaq is the most dominant player.

You know, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar was the all-time leading scorer before Bron broke his record.

And same, you know, with Magic doing his thing too.

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