What's your process for identifying where technology fits to fix something versus coming in with technology to be the fix before you have a clear sense of it?

One of the first things that was really apparent is that for most people doing this work today, that are doing it in the context of child welfare system, maybe at a state agency, maybe at a court system.

When you talk about data, they almost immediately will bring up a failed, massive modernization at state level.

$100 million spent.

Hear it all the time.

Every state.

I got it.

been some stories of states that have used