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Ryan Fish

Ryan Fish

Jun 29, 2026

19:44
So how about you?
19:45
So similar to Christian, my dad is a, a pianist.
19:49
He sings, and he played in bands when he was younger.
19:52
And, uh, he would sit me down as a little kid, like an infant, and put me on the piano stool.
20:00
And he'd play the piano, like Stevie Wonder and stuff, and he said I would just bob right on the beat.
20:05
And he's like, "Oh, you're gonna be a drummer," and he just always told me that, and so became a drummer.
20:30
Oh, yeah.
20:32
And, uh, I was terrified.
41:03
And the smart thing
41:03
that we did was use that as permission to make some pretty drastic changes.
41:07
If I'm being honest, we weren't super healthy financially going into COVID.
41:11
And so COVID forced our hand with some things.
41:15
But we used it to our advantage to right size the ship and to change things.
41:21
The shrinkage part is tricky because I feel like closing stores was like giving away kids, right? You put your heart and soul into these.
41:28
And there was one store in the Red Hanger story.
43:28
It's very, very hard.

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