Right.

And that's really what, what we put a lot of emphasis on.

I think recruiting is tough because, especially if you're on the smaller side, you're never gonna have the budgets, you're never gonna have the marketing team, you're never gonna have the reach that someone else is.

So your marketing becomes a lot harder.

You have to get more creative, a little bit more grassroots, you know, a little bit scrappier sometimes to do recruiting because you're a smaller company.

And, and I'm not talking, you know, the, the 25 employee companies.

I'm talking you could be 500 and it's still hard for people to find you.

Y- what are some of the reasons besides, you know, obviously it was management or something, are there any other ty- typical reasons that cause what we would think would be long-term employees to leave?