yeah

um and once customers have an established project or product that they like the look and feel of right then you kind of have to slowly iterate on that to you know make something good but When you're coming up with something new, customers rarely actually know what they want, in which case you just have to put something in front of them.

And they're going to say, wow, this fits all our use cases.

This is great.

Or more likely, they're going to be like, wow, that actually isn't what I wanted at all.

Can we throw the entire thing? Can we burn the entire thing down and start over? In which case...

If you spend six months of engineering time creating a bulletproof product and the customer is like, wow, this just isn't quite it.

focusing on like computer science like you were years ago we've obviously made a ton of advancements in technology in the last two years even while students were in school they're probably getting ready to graduate here in the next few months yeah What would you say when they think about having a strong foundation in CS and how it's going to be relevant in this next era that we're in? Yeah,