good that he's like, very open to just being straight up and honest with you like he wants the best product as well as as you guys because i guess you could have a producer it's just like hey okay these are the songs i'll press record and just put it all together and then that's that's the end of it

yeah and the last track on the album uh cherub there was like an entire riff that we had where i went to track it and he just kind of hit pause on like on the computer and just turned around it was like what the fuck is this Motley Crue sunset strip Boulevard? What that that's not, that's not the race.

And I was like, that's the part.

And he's like, nah, no, I can't let you guys play that.

That's just, I can't do that.

I'm going to go make some tea upstairs and we got to figure out something different.

And I was like, oh, okay.

uh more expressive and sort of dramatic than it was originally i think it i do think it made it a a way better song and i think having