So

at RailsWorld, we were promoting Wafris.

And Wafris was like a web application firewall.

And it was open source.

And at the time, I think ChatGPT was in its infancy.

So we were using it to kind of build out different language deployments for the firewall.

And we were trying to use that as our distribution channel.

I treat it

Is that something that you would consider, or are you in a completely different mindset?

Yeah, I think pretty deeply about, and I think there are a number of talk submissions I've done.

I'm actually going to do one locally about AI.

everyone, not only, you know, SAS owners or founders, but everyone in with a technical background that is working with AI, they have to understand where the human perspective and the human experience is most important and where the AI can help and not to blur that boundary, you know? So one, one great example that I'll give as far as like, you know, using AI is, um, I think one thing that we kind of talked about is like, hey, one of the moats is your customers, your prospects.

As long as you're serving them, as long as you're helping them, your business will grow or be around for a long time.

So, I try to get on as many customer calls as possible.

I try to do all the support tickets.

What does it look like? What's your workflow look like using Cursor and Cloud Agents and stuff like that?