Early, yeah.

Oh, yeah, early days for, for Matt and myself.

So I bought this container, and he couldn't tell me who it was.

Uh, and the person who, uh, sold it to him couldn't tell who it was.

I looked online, I couldn't find any information about the potter.

I, you know, I held the container.

I could tell that it was, like, of obvious quality, like of something better than anything else I'd seen before or owned, but nobody could tell me about the artist, why it was worth $200, if it was worth $200, where it came from.

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