So for you guys, is there any data you've been seeing that somebody should track or look at that might tell them if they're in a position that maybe it's a good time to sell their property, refinance their property, or maybe just totally abandon the property and change strategies.

Yeah, yeah.

So I think some of the top ones are things like your P&L by property, I think is really, really important.

I think it's something that a lot of people do around tax time, but I think is operationally helpful.

I think of this the same way for myself and RentReady.

As we've grown, I've built out dashboards that automatically update for me.

And I'm not looking at this once a year when we're doing taxes or even once a month when we're doing reviews as a team.

There were some good stats behind when you guys actually do that ahead of time, they have way less issues with the tenants as they stay in the property.

But hey, just before we jump in, tell us a little about you and your background.

Yeah, happy to.

So I got started on RentReady really out of trying to solve my own problem, honestly, and it wasn't even intended to be a business.

I went to school here in New York City, double majored in economics and mathematics, minored in computer science.

I'd gotten my first internship at Goldman Sachs, and that was my chance to move out of dorms.

stay in New York City for the first time.

It seemed like it would be this great summer.

But what are some of the top mistakes that landlords can avoid doing?

dependent on the ability to find technology to help you be more efficient because a lot of first time landlords, of course, are still running a nine to five because you're not, you know, you're not financially free at, you know, a rental that's making you 200 bucks a month.

Yeah, and that's where, you know, it's funny you mentioned that about the system changing your perspective of how well you can do.

When I was listening to your episode 350, you talked about this a little bit, about how the media paints this picture, this clearly incorrect picture of like, As you referred to it, like the slumlord of landlords, that's clearly not the truth.

And I felt this same way, you know, when I was starting Rent Ready, where it felt like there was almost like from a media perspective, this like demonizing of both sides.

And in reality, when I actually talked to people, right, like I talked to thousands and thousands of landlords and I can't tell you how wrong that is of like how much they actually genuinely care about their properties, about their tenants and vice versa.

How many tenants are like bright eyed, excited to like live there and like genuinely appreciate the landlords that facilitate these great experiences? And more often than not, what I was finding was that you had like genuinely good people on both sides that wanted a great experience for each other.

And the problem really was just that like they didn't have something in the middle that would actually facilitate a good relationship with them and like make it easier for them to facilitate it.

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