No

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it really isn't.

Um, I feel like one of my favorite parts has been having you and Beth Darwin, other teachers like you and your voices in, in the mix, um, I think has been eye-opening for owners and directors as well, um, just to really have real perspectives.

So let, let me ask you this.

What made you say yes to joining the Trailblazer Leadership Group? Um, I think for me it was, I remember like something was like pitch the idea of how you're feeling to Erica, right? Because like at that time I was, I, I knew, like I knew I had a talent and I knew I had a gift and I knew I had a passion, right? Because, um, I just, I was like, I, I do love this.

I tell this story all the time.

How would you say your confidence changed over the last year?

She's grateful for the continuous help provided by her daughter, Mary Corbett.

She takes care of my finances.

She does an awful lot, uh, you know, between my eyes, my teeth, the appointments, shopping, uh, grocery.

What's that? Oh, yeah, the pills.

[chuckles] She checks to make sure, uh, you know, I'm taking them and whatever, and-

[laughs]

That's what I'm afraid of.

[laughs] If that goes, I'm done for.

Um, let's talk a little bit about your history with chronic illness so people know where you're coming from.

Sure.

Yeah, um, I, my intention today is not to get into all the details 'cause as you said, it, it varies so much from person to person.

Um, I can say chronic illness has been, has defined the majority of my life, uh, starting with issues when I was a child and ongoing, and there have been some ups and downs throughout that time.

But definitely my whole life has been marked by, uh, the challenges that come with chronic illness.

Um, and I was thinking about what I wanted to share and found myself wishing most of all what I could do would be to hear from others who are struggling with this and to hear their story because, um, they don't need me to, to say how hard life can be because they're living it.

[laughs] They know it's hard.

Mm-hmm.

Um, let's talk a little bit about your history with chronic illness so people know where you're coming from.

Sure.

Yeah, um, I, my intention today is not to get into all the details 'cause as you said, it, it varies so much from person to person.

Um, I can say chronic illness has been, has defined the majority of my life, uh, starting with issues when I was a child and ongoing, and there have been some ups and downs throughout that time.

But definitely my whole life has been marked by, uh, the challenges that come with chronic illness.

Um, and I was thinking about what I wanted to share and found myself wishing most of all what I could do would be to hear from others who are struggling with this and to hear their story because, uh, they don't need me to, to say how hard life can be because they're living it.

[laughs] They know it's hard, um, and often it can have sort of an invisible component to it.

Mm-hmm.

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Can you tell me about the moment where you realized that you needed to formulate an escape plan and leave your relationship?

Absolutely.

About nine years into our marriage, uh, there was a series of four days where my husband was getting increasingly more aggressive, angry, irritable with me, and at the end of those four days, he picked up a knife off of our kitchen counter that I'd just cleaned, and he pointed it at me.

And in that moment, I knew I had to leave, because he had been violent with me before.

He'd even been physically violent with me before, but he'd never picked up a weapon, and in that moment that he did, I realized that he was capable of really hurting me in a way that I never knew, and I knew I had to get out.

Do you wanna speak to sort of some of those biases that, that come through when you're having conversations with people?

Uh, yeah, absolutely.

There's so many biases, and we all have this kind of stereotype of what an abusive relationship really looks like, and the image that I see a lot is sort of a, a, a pretty white woman kind of balled up in a corner as someone advances on them with violence, and it's really not like that.

ICE patrols, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, rounding people up.

In my particular neighborhood, they're very present.

The car wash in my neighborhood had a raid.

There were people hiding in a closet in the business.

They thought it was an active shooter.

It's really torn our neighborhood apart.

Like, it's really scary.

It was the middle of the night and a bunch of unmarked vehicles pulled into the parking lot where she sleeps.

Ruth, another member of the Amish community, told me that she will, for example, ride in a car.

We drive in other people's cars, but we don't drive our own.

We don't have licenses and we're not to be driving.

And so when it comes to zippers, there isn't actually any official stated doctrine in the Amish community.

I guess the best place for you to call would be the Amish Mennonite Heritage Center.

Maybe they'll have some answers for you on that.

And it made me think, like, what do you think it is about us that n- makes us care about this more than other people do? [laughs]

Well, I don't know.

I think it's not an unusual feeling to wanna be reimbursed for harm done.

But not everyone has to feel the same way about things.

The one window I remember looked out onto the parking lot.

I was expecting this nice room, and that's what I wanted, so I was disappointed.

I wanted the funeral to be, you know, special 'cause Daddy was special.