Can you kind of summarise some of the key things you found when you were looking at those questions?

So we've already mentioned about some of the patient-facing findings.

What we did with the findings is group them into three core concepts.

We had patient-facing work, navigating competing demands and sustainable careers, leadership and success.

And what we kind of found with each of the findings is that every time there was an opportunity for women to thrive, it was also equally undermined by another condition.

So often there was this real kind of push and pull going on.

To give a bit more of a detailed snapshot is the evidence would suggest that women can often depend on strong social networks for support to help juggle clinical work with caring responsibilities.

so demanding? I mean, why is that narrative so damaging for workforce retention?