that segues us perfectly to the spark effect um your upcoming session called the spark effects future proofing leadership development through human centered design tell us more about this and why it is relevant right now

yeah this this is something i've been working on for a few years now so the spark effect is a framework i created a couple of years ago um and it's just happened since i was camping and was trying to come up with my my next year of conference proposals that I was coming in with, you know, just like everybody, you've got a topic you stick with and you just alter it for every conference you apply for, you know, so that way you're not recreating the wheel every conference.

And so I was like, what am I going to use for the next year? It's like, I was going through my head.

What do I want to talk about? Well, it's all about, it's way too much content.

People are just putting too much content.

We are smothering people with information.

And then we were walking through the campsites and I looked over the sky and he was trying to get his campfire going and it was not like he couldn't get it going.

How do you involve future proofing in the context of this workshop?