know.

So I never touched drugs, anything, and drink.

Or had any desire to.

I went in 1988 to Mick's house and he was depressed.

He was really down.

He had a little studio in the basement.

Don was around, you know, his mates were around, but he was depressed.

You have to jump on both feet.

Tell me about the new album.

Let's get every DJ, 'cause this is a podcast, how to DJ.

Everybody knows that they can DJ, they can make a room jump on a Friday night.

Okay, fine.

And then at the end of the night, they might say, "Ah, but I wanna play this song, 'Careless Whisper.'" And "Careless Whisper," what a song.

Well, in my day you'd say, "Right, we'll play 'Vienna.'" Oh, what a song.

So you go Midyar, what a song.

You are.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay.

And he also sought out, um, Rodelius, Moebius, Can, Holger Czukay, krautrock.

He did all the research, and Bowie just showed up.

And if you do know, Bowie didn't like airplanes, so he took trains, which is Trans-Europe Express, me, Iggy Pop, and David Bowie.

And then if you go onto YouTube and put David Bowie going through Poland, he found a Polish album and did Warszawa, right? It's from a Polish local music.

So David Bowie was researching all this German music while he was in, living in Berlin, and obviously going to the Romy Haag Club, the SO57, where Joy Division played with Mark Reidah.

Mm-hmm.