So what was the hardest one? And why the teaching?

Well, they weren't all turnarounds, right? So I think Media Temple was a phenomenal company, and I was just there to help take it to the next level.

And they had two great founders, Damien and John, but they wanted to get out.

So we sold it to GoDaddy, which was the hardest transaction I've ever done in my career.

I mean, we sold.

Media Temple was very well.

I still talk to designers and developers today that know Media Temple.

i know i love that story let's talk about your new book uh where did the title come from

Well, it was a big

deal then.

I don't know if those are the biggest deals anymore.

But yeah, so I helped close a $25 million applications deal to make Oracle a standard in a company, one of our customers.

And...

But I kind of fell into this and this was before I was even promoted.

I was a young sales executive with multi-billion dollar accounts.

What's behind that?