Let's talk about the career path because this is not you, I mean you're an entrepreneur now but you were in the banking business for a while and just kind of talk to us, you know, and we always talk about your career GPS and how it's going to recalculate and you know, and so how did you get from there to sitting here?

Yeah, thank you for that.

So what brought us actually to the area longer, you know, going back a few years was doing an MBA here at Notre Dame.

I just loved my experience there.

I did a two-year MBA coming out of that.

Prior to that, I'd worked in software sales and project management.

Small little company.

Oh, it's going to