You need to make the most of your expertise,

Ruby.

Look, I think we're at a forefront at the moment, which is really exciting.

I did touch on the topic with these two ladies, three ladies before, of my first thought was the way that women haven't been celebrated naturally in the design community.

When you look back at, you know, the mid-century modern design, Um, and Grand Featherston being such a force, but there was always Mary behind him and she was designing alongside him and she wasn't celebrated at that moment with him.

And I think that was a missed opportunity.

And then more broadly and relating back to ourselves is... architects have such a seriousness and a cultural weight behind them.

It is.