Mm-hmm.

And I'm like, ugh, do I get on the phone with him 'cause it's so unprofessional to have my kid in the background.

But people do this all the time, especially since working from home.

This is normal life, and this is where I have shame and I have fear because I'm attached to a potential ruining of a relationship or how I will be perceived based on my life and e- situation, and being perceived that in a way that's not aligned with who I am.

Mm-hmm.

It's not something that you can really teach.

It's just something that you have to, like, get, and I feel the same way about sales when I've had, like, my, my sales career in the past and when I used to do coaching for that.

It's one of those things of it's like gauging buying temperature with a client.

And

this is so playing into our ego and how this is like the key to an ego death is living in everything almost in like you end up having more third person type of experiences because the reality is like, Whitney, I love you so much, but you still are nothing but a reflection back to me of what I either need to see or want to see.

Most people, it's for themselves and for their own feeding of their own ego because it's they wow this is such a weird tangent i'm going on but feeding of their own ego because we need these things to justify all of these attachments that we have to whether that's people or to things or to outcomes i mean when you're talking about celebrities to whatever career that we want right but that's like the whole this is the whole piece of the law of detachment is to like let go of these things and then you can actually like just live in the moment for these relationships you will no longer have relationships that aren't serving you or relationships that you're seeing the ones that do serve you as to why what value you put on those and then you can really assess like what is truly putting you on the path of your highest and greatest good and gives you the ability to live in the moment which is essentially what celebrity energy is.

So back to your original question of you had someone who says, I'm obsessed with you.

of detachment.

no no it's just like uh things honestly in my spirit spiritual journey but i did bufo do you know what that is much less popular one this is the hard thing about spirituality because i've been so in that world it's kind of what we talked to you before about these people who have these personas and so much in i think like the law of attraction or detachment or whatever it is is actually detaching from these identities.

All these stories that we're talking about of like, this is real.

That's because you identify as a person who X, Y, and Z.