Do you have anything that you can offer in terms of insights into that or have you, through your conversations with young people, for folks like me that have grown up in a different environment and disconnected from this challenge, it is a real eye-opener to understand that.

Yeah, I think shame is definitely a really prevalent thing for a young person in this kind of situation to experience.

It's something that's also not talked about a whole lot, but I think it comes from, just holistically, it can come from the sense of domestic and family violence occurring behind closed doors.

No one really talks about it.

No one really knows what's going on.

And it's almost like you're growing up with the sense that you have to hide something.

It's like, you know, when I was younger, I felt like I couldn't talk to anyone about it because no one really knew until kind of the end what was going on.

What has been some of the kind of landmark moments for you?