oh yeah

favorite and from the shows and all that um so that that was a kind of beginning and at that sort of i was seven eight nine with my cousins under the table um reading my rupert magazine or whatever we had in those days you know But there's music going on, and the women in the main, they wouldn't be drinking heavily, but they would have snowballs, which was gin and apricot and all that, you know.

So uproarious family, but families just getting together and making the sandwiches and all the rest of it.

Where I got interested was I always liked sort of rhymes, not necessarily like Colin Hendo or Bob Dylan, you know, but...

so in the thursday the liverpool echo is a broadsheet and they had a children's corner on a saturday morning um and um you could basically submit something a picture or a picture of your dog or um a poem or a short story whatever and um And anyway, I thought, well, write what you know.

I was only about eight at this time.

So I wrote in.

and it was all playfully naughty in those days as well wasn't it was and it was so you know it was it was so funny