Well, thinking about covid and what you had to do with the company what were some of the things you drew from that enabled you because you were getting ready to do um one of your um uh raising fundraisers yeah right around that time so talk about what happened and how you were able to respond to that

Yes.

And of course, you know, I'm in New York City.

So COVID for a lot of people was incredibly, incredibly challenging.

My experience is in no way equivalent to what like the first responders did or anything.

So just the ample caveat of that.

But yes, I was I think in my first trimester of my first pregnancy and was in San Francisco, had flown out there to raise Athena's seed round of venture capital and And it was kind of the week that the NBA games were canceled.

And I'm curious how that then transfers over today in the running of your business and whatever obstacles you may be encountering other than looking for venture capital that you encounter.

I want to hear about

that, too.

Yes.

um and so we have this embrace feedback value and that's not just like feedback is good it's like you must embrace it and i think great athletes like um serena williams has a coach you know like um because you can be the best tennis player in the entire world and there's still something that you messed up in every play that a coach a good coach can point out to you and i think that the best people i've ever worked with i joke that they're like little llms always learning um they Oh my gosh, that's great.

I love that.

Yeah, like we have this one salesperson and she's just like flying and she wasn't a traditional salesperson, but got into the role.

And I'm very bad at giving positive feedback, not because I don't see it, but it's just.

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