You were at the first one, I believe, weren't you, Rowan? What do you think in terms of development?

I think the game's grown massively.

I think the improvement, you can definitely see it.

You can see the training, the strength that everyone's putting in.

We're not just men that play netball, we're netballers.

So it's nice to see that our hard work and our dedication is paying off, I think.

men's netball it's grown massively and to see that on a large scale here it just sort of puts it into perspective like when we're all in our own clubs we don't necessarily see the scope across the country but you know when everyone comes together you can see the improvement and the dedication as well because it's not just something that you rock up and play you know we train all year for this and it's nice to see the results.

Good, and you said you were part of the England Thorns Programme?