Oh, okay.

Because I've done it, and there was, um, a really good, um, I had a really good carry on that flight.

And, um, number five, just don't consider going to Europe then.

... because it's not, they're not serving the-

... be honest with you, Tom, there's two options.

Technically two options.

You can either go through Perth straight to Europe, or, to be honest, you can go through the States.

You know-

I imagine it was quite a new wave of fresh faces on that.

Yeah, it was, it was, um, yeah, it was, it was really interesting actually.

So s- so I sort of du- during that tour, I sort of caught up with people that I hadn't seen for, for 20 years, like after the gig and stuff.

But, but yeah, you're right.

It's, um, there's like a whole new generation who, who are just like discovering, discovering The Cribs and seeing them live for the first time, and, uh, and it was a...

I've done other bits and bobs over the years as well, and it's, it's, it's definitely changed.

Like the gig-going punters, like it's quite, it's quite nice to see like there's families going.

Why this particular song?

Wow.

Does your body hurt more than it used to after a long day? You're not getting old.

You're not out of shape.

You're just absorbing too much impact.

Every step on hard floors adds up, and eventually your feet, knees, or back start calling the shots.

That's not age.

That's physics.

[plane engine roaring]

What were you doing, and what happened?

Okay.

In, uh, July of 2023, I moved to, uh, Columbia, South Carolina.

I'm originally from West Virginia.

I grew up hunting and fishing in the mountains, hollers, you know, you know, black bears and white tail and boar and coyotes and all the critters is out there.

You know, I'm very familiar with them.

Um, in October of that year, um, we moved in some apartments outside of Columbia, and I noticed there was 15 acres of land beside the apartments.

What was kinda your whole take on Bigfoot before this happened?