Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

It was very, um, life altering.

I wasn't just seeing them as a child.

I was seeing them as someone's son or someone's daughter and, you know, that, that really made a big impact on, on how I worked with kids.

Um, and you know, the reason why it, uh, affects me so much and why I want to do a good job when working with children is because they're dealing with so much, and many adults are not aware of what is actually happening to that individual child.

So I'd get that in the school system, where a teacher would send a student to me and go, "This child is just being so naughty."

Yeah.

Yeah.

Focus, curiosity.

Oh, I love that.

And social is our relationships, how we communicate with others.

Spiritual is, and people think this is religious.

It's not religious.

When it comes to spiritual health, it's about connecting to ourself, connecting to our values, our purpose, and where we belong in the world.

So for a mum who's already stretched thin and she's just trying to get everyone fed and out the door, where would you actually start with these pillars? What's the first small thing to change with this approach?