How much of your hand was inside Katie's body?

Probably up to my wrist, starting forearm.

Meanwhile, Katie's own body wants to push the baby out, right? Contractions push down.

So, you know, to have my hand, uh, that's painful for her, and I knew it was painful, and I told her, "I'm very sorry, but I can't care about your pain." It's a very weird pain.

It's a deep pain.

Anyone who's had a cervical biopsy, an endometrial biopsy, an IUD put in, I think it's a pain no one can describe.

Um, and then this is times a whole lot more because there's a baby in there, too, and now someone's hand as well.

Her other hand is inside Katie as the driver navigates the winding roads.