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Rosalind Crone

Rosalind Crone

Historian

Aug 18, 2026

7:55
Ros, I'm guessing that if you're poor, female and unrepresented in court in the early 19th century, you're at a disadvantage before the trial even begins?
8:04
Yes, that is absolutely right, because through much of history, the courts have come down really hard on poor women.
8:10
They're often the bad women in society.
8:12
And there's two reasons for that.
8:14
The first is that it's simply very hard for poor women to meet the ideal standards of womanhood.
8:20
And the other reason is, of course, because crime is socially constructed.
8:24
Crime is often a tool of the elite to keep certain classes under control.

10 MINS LATER

18:29
Rod,
5:28
I began by asking her, who is Georgina Weldon?
5:32
She was born on the 24th of May 1837 at Tooting Lodge in Clapham Common.
5:39
Her parents were from the landed gentry and she spends her childhood in Italy, especially Florence, as well as Switzerland and Brussels.
5:48
And she sings and goes to balls and she has a huge number of admirers.
5:54
Joanna Martin, in her biography of Georgina, has pulled together hundreds of her letters and they give this really wonderful sense of her personality as a young woman and also her sense of herself.
6:06
So she writes things like, I sang like an angel and I was irresistible.
6:12
Yeah.

9 MINS LATER

14:49
I asked historian Ros Crone if she has any chance of bringing the men involved in the plot against her to justice.
6:46
Do you think she designed that very chic
6:48
little sort of cape dress she's wearing there? Or maybe it looks quite bespoke, doesn't it? I would describe her as a very sophisticated modern woman.
6:57
She really loves dancing and going to nightclubs.
7:00
This is the roaring 20s.
7:02
So she's a flapper.
7:04
She has lots of suitors and lots of male friends.
7:08
But interestingly, she doesn't seem to have any that much interest in actually having sex.

17 MINS LATER

24:15
What was the end of the story then for Christabel and John?
4:59
What did trial by media really look like in the 18th, 19th, early 20th centuries?
5:05
Well, trial by media is really a product of the rise of cheap print, growing literacy rates, and also a real appetite among people of all classes to read about the growing business of the courts.
5:17
If you look at the 19th century court reporting, it looks like what you're getting is a transcript of the trial.
5:24
However, these transcripts gave a real illusion of comprehensiveness.
5:29
Readers were not consuming a neutral script.
5:32
There were still editorial decisions being made about what to include, and also, you know, had an impact on how these trials were consumed, discussed, and then debated.
5:44
In the 20th century, we see that process much more obviously where we see editors being much more selective about the testimonies that they're including.

16 MINS LATER

22:01
Roz, how unusual is this for a lawyer in the 1920s now to manipulate the media?
6:02
So if George Norton is embarking upon the preliminaries to divorce, I think we can assume this is a very unhappy marriage.
6:08
marriage.Yes, and frankly, they were very ill-suited.
6:12
On paper, it looked like quite a good match.
6:14
Caroline came from this large aristocratic dynasty, but they didn't really have a lot of money, and they really needed to marry off their daughters.
6:23
Caroline, she was beautiful, she was witty, she was intelligent.
6:26
She kind of intimidated men a bit, and so she didn't have that many suitors.
6:31
George Norton, on the other hand, he was a second son, but he was heir to the family fortune because his brother was childless, and he had also trained as a barrister, so he could keep things going in the meantime.
6:56
So they really don't know each other at all well before marriage.

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