So why don't we start by, like, where did the idea come from? What were you doing at the time?

Yeah.

So I'm a software developer by trade.

Basically been, um, programming since I was 17, and I had always wanted to do something of my own, build my own type of product.

I was interested in things, but I just didn't know what product to build.

And so, um, there was this point where the iPhone came out, and once smartphones came out, I knew that there was an opportunity there.

I just honestly didn't know what that opportunity was.

Um, what do you think led to Skimmer getting so much traction around the country compared to some of these other products? And I'm sure as you got more success, um, there were more copycat products as al- as well sort of appearing.