How did you and Viv get connected?

Well, Viv has been an active member of the community for many years, as you know.

Renee McGurry, ironically, a very good mentor and a friend and former French teacher when I was growing up.

We've always kept in touch and she's always worked with indigenous culture.

And I've been utilizing her services since 2014 to build the first ever indigenous training for our security company.

We were the pioneers before anyone else in Canada was doing it.

And we've been doing it since 2014, but I wanted to take it to another level.

When you hear stories like that from Viv, how do you want to see this expand?