Let's get this thing ready to rock and roll.

Yeah, reminiscing on this, so I think it was my junior or senior year, so 14, 15, the NCAA came out and stated you can have 30 practices in 40 days.

The years prior, you just had a start date, and you could do so many hours on the court and in the weight room in a week span, and you'd have to have one day off, I think, every week.

four or five days, and listening to Mills week in and week out, I believe they're in their fifth week of practices right now, and he's really keen on kind of the process.

On my way to Colorado last week, I watched the Saban documentary.

Yeah.

Shout out, Disney.

If we have a terrible year, if that's the team we want to beat, I'm sure the guys who are on this team for this year probably feel a little bit of the same way with that preseason number one ranking in the American Conference.

So how does Wichita State go about handling that here for 26-27?

I guess from a fan looking outside in, I would say you just got to prepare for any scenario, right? Which is, I would say, pretty challenging.

You'd like to know who your roster is going to be come October 12th or 13th, whenever their first scrimmage is.

If I was Giles, I'd be pretty antsy.

Luckily for him, I think it's going to be a win-win situation.

He's such a talented scorer.

a player he's going to play professionally.

What does that mean to someone like you who was a part of the program for multiple years, not just one year, but for multiple years, to see guys continuing to choose Wichita State?

for that service is that is that fair to say

that absolutely i think i think we're going to have to start imagining that we're no longer selling services to our customers it's almost like there's this medieval concept known as a pre-bend priests in the old days were paid not for what they did in other words that the church masters didn't endow the they didn't um endow the rituals You know, no priest or rabbi walks around with a price list.

Oh, you want me to officiate your wedding? That's X.

Oh, you want me to, you know, preside over your funeral? That's Y.

Oh, you want me to hear a confession? No, they don't have a price list like that.

They're paid so they can do something for you when you need it.

And I think that's the model.

Can you tell me how much time the chef's putting all this together? Because I think the markup is a little high,

Start with number one.

Wow.

This is such a great question, Joe, because I, I probably didn't encounter Drucker until late later, like in 1984, when I started working for the big eight is when I ran into him, nobody in college taught Peter Drucker.

I don't even think they quoted him.

And I started to devour everything the guy's written because he's written, I don't know, 40 or 50 books, something like that.

Tons of articles.

The three biggest ones I have to say is he's the guy who coined the knowledge economy and the knowledge worker.

So you sort of, you know, a morality overlap too between Judeo-Christian heritage or just, you know, common morality that exists universally and the business principles.