And security is getting lost, isn't it, in between all that?

Yes, and I think this is why you have to look at different aspects of it, as I say.

I mean, the whole point is to keep patients, staff and NHS assets safe and provide the best level of clinical care that the NHS can.

But so if you are losing staff through violence and aggression, if it's increasing sickness absence, if it's increasing recruitment and retention issues, if it's losing money through additional bank and agency spend, if it's losing money through litigation.

And I quoted some figures earlier.

So NHS Resolution, and this is just talking about violence and aggression as opposed to other aspects.

So NHS Resolution are the insurers, if you like, of the NHS.

Yeah, I guess the key thing is, Roger, can you see this situation changing? Because if you can't, it's all the more reason to get a focus on the changes within the security sector itself, because that's the gap that could be filled, I suppose, to some extent.