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Roger Macmillan

Oct 16, 2026

21:00
Roger, give us some insight into how Iran orchestrates attacks like this, like the one that was thwarted, uh, against Fairford.
21:09
So they first of all will likely to, they, they'd like to recruit, as Rozina's accurately said, these low-level criminals, people who may have absolutely no understanding of what their purpose actually is.
21:24
And it might be as simple as, "If you do this, we'll pay you some money," and, "Take a photograph, take another photograph, watch, watch a building for us, tell us who comes out." That information is then passed to another individual who will do the next part of it, and the first criminal is effectively a cutout.
21:44
His involvement is being there, he's done what he has to do, and he's cut away, which makes it incredibly difficult for the police to try and pin all of this together.
21:55
And it, it escalates and escalates and escalates until someone finally would be tasked with conducting a, an act.
22:02
And you se- But that's for the criminals.
22:06
You then have the, the Iranians, as, as has been said already, some 50 have been arrested in the last year alone, and in, in fact, two have just been charged under the National Security Act with conducting hostile surveillance.
25:36
And can you take us through what it was like at the time at Iran International when these assassination attempts, uh, were made against the, the anchors?
2:22
Why do you believe the regime's greatest vulnerability isn't military, but financial? And could we say that the real center of gravity is the IRGC's payroll and not necessarily the missiles?
2:34
So Negar, thank you very much indeed for having me on.
2:36
It's a, it's a real privilege and a pleasure to be on, uh, with you tonight.
2:40
Um, everything stems around money.
2:43
The regime has been built for forty-seven years to withstand conventional military pressure, tenderizing, as it were, and the US, uh, has done that very successfully over the past five months.
2:55
We've seen continued pressure, we've seen continued attacks on infrastructure, we've seen continued attacks on the IRGC, uh, the Navy, uh, so on and so forth, but yet they still exist, and why? It's because they still dominate in the financial space.
3:10
Um, we know that to begin with, they, they had d-d, uh, destroyed, you know, they killed Ali Shamkhani, who controlled a lot of the Ghost Fleet, for example, uh, but they still exist.

12 MINS LATER

15:50
Interesting.

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