and continues to be

yeah yeah I love that well I think a lot of entrepreneurs have a similar story around the it's funny.

I think it's all tied together in many ways.

I think a lot of people are driven to entrepreneurialism because of some lack at some point in early life is my gut.

It could be as simple as a lack of fitting in at school because your mind thinks differently.

It could be a deeper one that goes to something parental, you know, and something from early childhood.

And I think a lot of these things mixed together to, uh, say, right, I'm going to build an identity around achievement, around validation, either to prove the teachers wrong or to get attention from the parents that I never got.

praying something's going to land.