And so what did you what did you a what did you grow up listening to? Like what were your parents playing around the house? You know flamenco jazz whatever and then be like, what did you start listening to once you started? I don't know if it was like as a teenager or whatever, you know, once you started Forming your own identity listener

Yes well we both grew up in You know the our parents they were very musical gaps mom super musical and my mom and my dad and Really musical, listening to, as you said, jazz music.

flamenco, tango, you know, all these things.

And in Gav's side, it was more, he was 10, but her aunt, he was more kind of in the Beatles and Rolling Stones and all these things.

So Gav was relating to the British kind of rock since early years.

And then I have another brother, five years older than me, and he when he was in secondary in high school early years high school he met some metalheads and i was i was only like i don't know like uh nine or eight when he came back once with um um with the Kill Em All album, Metallica's Kill Em All.

And then, you know, although I had all this good music going on at home with my parents, I really focused on this metal, thrash metal scene, you know, and then started to listen to Metallica, Slayer, Testament, Exodus, Megadeth.

2001 and then you re-record it kind of repurpose it for your first official first album refuck in 2002 um but but i guess the the big uh yeah the big the big the big second the big breakthrough was the second one the self-titled right where you go you got really in 2006 that tops the irish albums charts you you know you're beating out arctic monkeys some some big names uh it has they do some covers metallica you mentioned you do orion i remember you even do a zeppelin stairway memories of putting together that one and watching it blow up

Yeah.

We then, we, we, we already were kind of in the middle of the writing.

Uh, probably the full album was already kinda written, uh, at that point.

When we came back to start to continue, you know, like, uh, with, uh, torches, we didn't know at the time we were gonna record the album in Japan.

But we, we continued doing this, uh, writing, um, uh, stuff and fixing things here and there.

And at some point, I s- I told Gab, I was like, "Hey, I think we need to go to Japan because I have...

You know, I feel this, this, this is so connected to it, and to whatever we experienced in the holidays." And I, I mean, it's a long story, sure, but, uh, we, we had experienced some kind of, um, uh, calling, you know.

What led to that decision?

There

are many ways to see the song, but even between God and myself, we have a different kind of perception of the meaning.

I mean, I wrote the lyrics, but...

But it's an old song that I wrote a few years back.

And it's always been there in the background, you know, for us.

It's not, you know, it's not the first song we write.

Gab has written songs.

Let's start with Rod.