So when you're going into a game like this, that's going to be defined by its intensity as the kicker, did you ever say to yourself, okay, there is, more potential for distraction there's more potential for the heart to be a little faster for the butterflies to show up did you have because if I'm the linebacker I want to run through a wall but I don't necessarily want my kicker wanting to run through a wall well I want my kicker calm relaxed you know kind of chill did you ever find yourself saying okay I've got to be extra sure that I can find whatever headspace I need to be in what was that like for you in particular

i definitely think that being a specialist you need to make a conscious effort in a game like this to not allow your emotions to run high you know we want our specialists to be consistent we want them to be level-headed cool under pressure and so i think in a game like this where you know you might want to let your emotions run a little bit higher if you're at another position and maybe that gives you a little bit of an extra you know quicker step you know a little bit of extra focus kickers we want to be able to stay in a consistent headspace and so i do think in a game like this you have to be really good about just maintaining that level that you bring on a weekly basis.

I think that I felt like I did a pretty decent job of that.

I think that I went 100% on all place kicks in my career against Florida.

I love it.

Field goals and extra points.

I love it.

What do you make about a quarterback decision that if you're not careful could veer in the direction of being a quarterback controversy?

it

feels a little, something a little off about this, but we go through our special teams meeting, we get up and we have our specialist meeting.

It's just our kickers and punters and snappers.

And we're talking to our special teams coach.

And I said, coach, are you sure that the best fake field goal that we have to run against LSU is the LSU fake field goal? And just with a straight face, he's like, yes, this is the best one.

We've seen on tape those ends, they crash really hard trying to block.

And so if they're fully committed to it, it's going to work and you'll be scot-free.

Did you ever like – does he just hold a grudge over you guys beating him? Or did you guys squash that? What was that interaction?

Talk about that first year coming to league and the different trials, tribulations you had getting going.

Yeah, I mean, that first year as an undrafted free agent, I think that everybody knows, you know, all the guys that are in that position, they know that, you know, uh, you're kind of on a short leash.

You really have to prove your worth.

You have to prove that you're gonna provide value to the team immediately, otherwise they're probably gonna be moving on and looking in a new direction.

And so every day that I was there I felt like this is another, you know, this is another day of my job interview, you know? Even though we go through tons of preparation before that with interviews at the Senior Bowl and the Combine and, you know, and, and, and calls with the coaches leading up to draft day.

You know, those are all part of it.

And then you get onto the field for the first time with the team in front of your teammates and in front of the coaches, and it's like, okay, now this is, this is the bulk of the interview right here.

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Talk about that first year coming to league and the different trials, tribulations you had getting going.

Yeah.

I mean, that first year as an undrafted free agent, I think that everybody knows, you know, all the guys that are in that position, they know that, you know, you're kind of on a short leash.

You really have to prove your worth.

You have to prove that you're going to provide value to the team immediately.

Otherwise, they're probably going to be moving on and looking in a new direction.

And so every day that I was there, I felt like this is another, you know, this is another day of my job interview.

Talk to me a little bit of how I grow my followers.