... to deal with now, Rodney.

Yes.

Yes.

Um, and, and kinda like, see, the same thing's happening, um, right now to me w- like, like it was for D-Von in all the transition into producing and whatnot, and I'm getting deeper into it and loving it and enjoying it.

Um, and, and so, you know, again, like with Build- Billy's trying to get me, you know, taking me out slowly, of course, and then, uh, using me sporadically when need be.

But, um, I'm, I'm...

Yeah.

How's it going right now? And, and, and more importantly, for anyone listening, how can they get in touch in order to, to be part of the, the mix there?

[laughs] So going back, were you a, a wrestling fan growing up? Did you do sports before you got into professional wrestling, or how, how did all that come to be?

Yes, yes, first I was definitely a fan growing up.

Uh, again, man, I always open up a podcast pretty much saying the same thing of I remember being four years old.

I'm the older- or oldest of two, uh, my br- me, myself and my brother.

And, uh, my mother was in labor one night for, you know, with my brother.

And we, my father and I had dropped her off at the hospital and we went on to watch a, a wrestling event.

It was Andre the Giant in a, a handicap match in Lafayette, Louisiana.

[laughs]

Really?

On ECW, yes, yeah.

So I was traveling all over the United States of America trying to get that match.

you know, like everybody else, it was rough.

And then the blessing was though, you know, it taught me a lot.

Number one, when it comes to like quitting, I ain't that guy, you know? And so I was driving from Dallas to Maine, to Vermont, to, you know, the East Coast, any which way.

And I wouldn't even, you know, get an opportunity to wrestle a dart match or even have a tryout.

And, and at what point in your career did you decide to, let's open up a wrestling school.