How did that all come about?

Well, I think it was, it, in the '60s there was a lot of excitement about saving the Barrier Reef.

There was a lot of public issues going on about the crown-of-thorns starfish.

I mean, you really had to have your head in a cloud not to know about the Great Barrier Reef and its importance to Australia.

As I indicated earlier, w- the national estate was set up, and the Barrier Reef was one of the first, um, things in Australia, the first conservation areas to be proclaimed under the na- national estate.

People...

It was in, divided to, into oil exploration areas, and drilling had started on some areas.

Yeah.